(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[8.00]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[North American Ing Masters Round 5 Board 2 - 2009 US Go Congress - Yuan Zhou (7d) vs Yun Feng (9p)]PW[Yuan Zhou]PB[Yun Feng]WR[7d]BR[9p]DT[2009-08-07]EV[North American Ing Masters]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Burg]C[USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the live coverage of the North American Ing Masters tournament, here at the 2009 US Go Congress.
USGO2 [-\]: This is round 5, board 2 with Feng Yun 9p playing Yuan Zhou 7d.
USGO2 [-\]: I'm Chris, your game recorder this evening.
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan has won the nigiri and chosen white.
]RE[B+11.00]
;B[dp]
;W[pd]C[USGO2 [-\]: Both players carefully place their opening moves.
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;B[nc]
;W[dd]
;B[qf]
;W[oe]
;B[qc]
;W[pp]
;B[cf]
;W[ch]
;B[fd]C[Novalys [2k\]: 9p playing, wow
USGO2 [-\]: Yun rocks very slowly back and forth in her chair with her arms crossed.  Yuan leans forward in his chair, peering over the board from up close.
freq [2k\]: which web site was broadcasting tournement live on stream?
meuns [2k\]: ^^
meuns [2k\]: black is really funky here !
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;W[df]
;B[dg]
;W[cg]
;B[dc]C[USGO2 [-\]: The live stream of board 1 can be found at http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
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;W[ce]
;B[cc]C[dtmc [24k?\]: aw im the lowest rank in here :\\
dtmc [24k?\]: next stop honinbou
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;W[md]
;B[qd]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: i prefer b already
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;W[mc]
;B[bf]
;W[be]
;B[ef]
;W[de]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yuan adjusts the stone at N17 slightly.  Both players are leaning in closely now.
Uberdude [5d?\]: j17 
Uberdude [5d?\]: maybe h17
USGO2 [-\]: Yun is drinking coffee this evening.  Yuan has a bottle of water.
Uberdude [5d?\]: yun is family or given name?
nathanha0 [1k\]: 9p ad 7d?
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;B[ob]C[meuns [2k\]: miss feng
USGO2 [-\]: Yun is her given name.  There is often confusion about the issue, her name tag here at the US Go Congress reads "Yun Feng"
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;W[hc]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yun stands up and leaves the room.  Shortly thereafter, Yuan decides on H17.
meuns [2k\]: ^^
USGO2 [-\]: Excuse me, she's actually getting more coffee, but someone was standing behind her.
meuns [2k\]: psycho battle
USGO2 [-\]: She returns to the table with her second cup of the evening.
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;B[fb]C[Lebron [?\]: zhuyingque ?
Lebron [?\]: oh, coffee
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;W[fq]
;B[hq]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: j17 is somewhat slack?
Uberdude [5d?\]: w could play f17?
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;W[cn]
;B[fp]
;W[cq]
;B[dq]
;W[cp]
;B[do]
;W[cr]
;B[dr]C[freq [2k\]: Lower left joseki?
USGO2 [-\]: A flurry of moves plays out rapidly
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;W[nq]C[freq [2k\]: i liked w more there
Tetriste [17k\]: I think lower left is joseki, not sure though
meuns [2k\]: b seems ahead here
meuns [2k\]: s4 ?
Tetriste [17k\]: I saw similar patterns before
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;B[nd]C[meuns [2k\]: these are common sequences
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;W[me]
;B[ne]
;W[mf]
;B[nf]
;W[qk]C[meuns [2k\]: l18
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;B[jc]C[nocheat [4d\]: K16
USGO2 [-\]: Yun blows on her coffee before taking several drinks, then gets up and refills her cup.
tuerda [1k\]: usgo2 descriptions of what the players are doing gives this game so much color . . .
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;W[je]
;B[id]
;W[hf]C[USGO2 [-\]: H14 was played forcefully, producing a loud crack.
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;B[hd]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: this is not a wall
Uberdude [5d?\]: this is a heavy group
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;W[qo]
;B[mg]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: r5 deserves a spanking
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;W[lg]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yuan takes a quick drink of water and checks his opponent's remaining time.
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;B[mh]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: this game reminds me a bit og a go seigen kitani one
Uberdude [5d?\]: go keeps tenukiiing his stick
iTengen [3k\]: then what happens ^_^
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;W[kc]
;B[kb]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yuan plays his move carefully, producing no click of the stone.  Yun responds with a loud crack of the stone.
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;W[lh]
;B[li]
;W[ki]
;B[lj]
;W[kj]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yun leans against the table, twitching a foot as she reads.
USGO2 [-\]: A gaggle of onlookers arrive and peer at the game from the side of the table.
tsuchigumo [-\]: They resemble geese?
USGO2 [-\]: Well, they're certainly flocking from table to table.
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan checks Yun's time.  She has 1 hour and 6 minutes remianing.  Yuan has 1 hour and 3 minutes left.
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan is sitting very straight against the back of his chair.
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;B[kk]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yun quietly slips in her move, then resumes her slow rocking in her chair.
Fiara [5k\]: USGO2's having fun with the suspense.
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;W[lk]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yuan slaps his stone down sharply.
USGO2 [-\]: He nods to himself as he reads.
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;B[nj]C[calvinlee [-\]: a true winner
USGO2 [-\]: Yun checks Yuan's time and takes a drink of coffee.
USGO2 [-\]: She then gets up and refills her 3rd cup of the evening.
USGO2 [-\]: After bringing it back to the table, she leaves the room.
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;W[jk]C[Fiara [5k\]: ... I love the textual commentary :P
USGO2 [-\]: She returns and plays immediately
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;B[kl]
;W[jl]
;B[km]
;W[jm]C[WoBuDong: Yuan calmly slithers his hand down to the zipper of his pants
WoBuDong: He covertly zips it up after having noticed that he left it open after the last washroom break :)
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;B[kn]C[WoBuDong: Yun shakes her head, her concentration momentarily broken and resumes her intent study of the board
derp [1k\]: WoBuDong -> censored
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan tisks to himself.
WoBuDong: D:
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;W[qh]C[WoBuDong: Ouch, R12
Uberdude [5d?\]: got to be overplay
Uberdude [5d?\]: thin
WoBuDong: As my girlfriend would say: "What a pity!"
Uberdude [5d?\]: next to massive thickness
juntz: nah
ethanb [1k\]: aiming at O13, no?
WoBuDong: Lets see some R7 madness heh!
USGO2 [-\]: Yun purses her lips as she studies the right side of the board.
WoBuDong: Let me elaborate: "Yun purses her naturally full lips in what most people would mistake for a pout, she runs her tounge along her bottom lip in a slow measured movement all the while keeping her eyes locked into the right side of the board"
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;B[qq]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yuan nods at R3 and takes a loud breath of air.
Uberdude [5d?\]: aims at r7
Uberdude [5d?\]: r12 at q7 would be safe but slow
WoBuDong: "Yuan watches intently as Yun slips a black stone onto R3.  A the muffled sound of moisture being released emenates from his pants.  He sucks in a deep lung full of air."
derp [1k\]: does b expect a ko from this, or just help with r7?
Uberdude [5d?\]: just help
derp [1k\]: is a ko possible?
Uberdude [5d?\]: standard technique
Uberdude [5d?\]: if b tries too hard
Uberdude [5d?\]: it might live
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan silently taps out moves against the table with his finger.
USGO2 [-\]: More tisking and head shaking from Yuan
lepore [1d\]: go Yuan!
USGO2 [-\]: His lips move slightly as he counts the game.
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;W[pq]
;B[qm]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yun plays R7 forcefully.
niki [2k\]: as uber predicted
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan now has 44 minutes left of main time.  Yun has 46 minutes.
USGO2 [-\]: Yun drinks the rest of her coffee, then heads to the refreshment stand for another cup
USGO2 [-\]: She remains standing next to her chair, looking at the board.
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;W[pl]C[USGO2 [-\]: She retakes her seat as Yuan plays.
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan then gets up and leaves the room.
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;B[ro]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yun points out her move to Yuan as he returns.
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan picks up a stone, puts it down, then picks it up again and plays.
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;W[rp]
;B[qn]C[Koreangrl8 [3k\]: that was nice.
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan rests his chin in his hands while thinking.
us1dan [2d\]: hard for w now....
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;W[po]C[Koreangrl8 [3k\]: nice.
Uberdude [5d?\]: s9 
h7N1 [4d\]: if Yuan beats Yun, then it is a major upset
h7N1 [4d\]: Q5 nice
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: b lost previous match right?
USGO2 [-\]: I was informed last night that Yun's loss to Andy Liu last night was her 6th loss ever in a rated game for the AGA.
Uberdude [5d?\]: to the wolf
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;B[on]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: 6th of?
h7N1 [4d\]: That can't be true
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: wow!! 6th loss..only. 
us1dan [2d\]: p-7 for w
h7N1 [4d\]: She lost 2 games to Jie Li on a qualifier
h7N1 [4d\]: She lost 2 games at 2008 Oza qualifier in DC
h7N1 [4d\]: She lost to Mingjiu at least twice
USGO2 [-\]: 6th of 40 I believe
AmerBeton [8k\]: b is so crushing white
Uberdude [5d?\]: 40 not so many
h7N1 [4d\]: Well, if some of the games I listed were not rated games
Uberdude [5d?\]: but still a good record
Uberdude [5d?\]: as i guess she mainly plays int opt cometittions
Uberdude [5d?\]: and not against nooby 5ds
h7N1 [4d\]: Frankly she was the strongest when she jsut arrived in 2003-2004
h7N1 [4d\]: The 2004 Feng YUn can give 2009 Feng YUn 2 stones
USGO6 [-\]: Erm, 2008 qualifier was in Baltimore.
h7N1 [4d\]: right
h7N1 [4d\]: in Baltimore
h7N1 [4d\]: or DC area:-)
AmerBeton [8k\]: q6 ?
USGO6 [-\]: They're close, but donn't let anyone in Baltimore hear you say that. :-)
lepore [1d\]: she arrived in 2000 or 2001 (when I was living in NYC)
USGO6 [-\]: Baltimore about same size as DC if I remember correctly.
h7N1 [4d\]: Isn;t Baltimore where DC people dump their teenagers?
h7N1 [4d\]: haha
Uberdude [5d?\]: isn't baltimore the place with some of highest crime?
Uberdude [5d?\]: and in the wire
AmerBeton [8k\]: someone ?
h7N1 [4d\]: Baltimore has the most Academy members
USGO2 [-\]: You can view Yun's AGA tournament record at http://agagd.usgo.org/EasyPHP1-8/www/AGAGD/Player_Card.php?&key=10297
Uberdude [5d?\]: compare her to oh chi minh
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan's is located at http://agagd.usgo.org/EasyPHP1-8/www/AGAGD/Player_Card.php?&key=4566
Uberdude [5d?\]: he has 75 wins 5 loses
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;W[om]C[h7N1 [4d\]: haha
h7N1 [4d\]: Tha website is the not doing a good updating job
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;B[pn]C[h7N1 [4d\]: I checked myself (AGA 6d), the information is out of date by 80%!
USGO6 [-\]: Somehow it doesn't mention 2004 Oza. 
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;W[nn]
;B[nm]C[h7N1 [4d\]: I would say YUn has 9-10 losses
Fiara [5k\]: o.O
USGO2 [-\]: It does lack certain tournament records.
USGO2 [-\]: The maintainers do not have access to the full ratings database, and must rely on a separate database for the games, I'm told.
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;W[nl]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: the egf recently got a great ratings/tournament etc website
USGO2 [-\]: Catering arrives and refills the water station.  The players are momentarily distracted by the noise.
h7N1 [4d\]: I really wish I were there:-)
h7N1 [4d\]: :-(
h7N1 [4d\]: Yuan is strong, but not enough to beat a 9p pro...
kingsplace [2k\]: Why did Yun leave China? She would get paid alot more if she was playing in China
h7N1 [4d\]: but it seems b is in deep trouble here
h7N1 [4d\]: She had to leave
kingsplace [2k\]: Was she not good enough?
h7N1 [4d\]: She was too good
dsaun [2d\]: she did not have to leave, that's nonsense
h7N1 [4d\]: but one among 6-7 top female pleayers
Uberdude [5d?\]: i heard rui naiwei left due to political reasons
h7N1 [4d\]: At that time, Chiense female had no match in the world
Uberdude [5d?\]: dunno if feng yun same
dsaun [2d\]: at the time, her husband got a good job in new jersey
h7N1 [4d\]: so there is no one interested in sponsoring a international or domestic tournaments
h7N1 [4d\]: sicne there would not be any suprise/upset
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan finishes his bottle of water and gets up to refill it
h7N1 [4d\]: several top chicnse pros left at that time
h7N1 [4d\]: sad
h7N1 [4d\]: not only you ned to be the best, but also you need to be ther best at the right time
h7N1 [4d\]: need
h7N1 [4d\]: Political reason is secondary for Rui as well.  No game to play is the primary reason
h7N1 [4d\]: Go was not well commercialized in China at that time
sameasyou [2d\]: isn't Rui Naiwei korean?
dsaun [2d\]: no, she is chinese
dsaun [2d\]: she plays for korea
sameasyou [2d\]: really????
h7N1 [4d\]: She plays in Korea
h7N1 [4d\]: Just like Go seigne or Rin
h7N1 [4d\]: in international team competition, she still represents China
sameasyou [2d\]: Yun Feng?
dsaun [2d\]: he was speaking of Rui NaiWei, not FengYun
sameasyou [2d\]: Rui Naiwei represents China?..I doubt that
sameasyou [2d\]: I think he said Yun Feng represents China
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan stretches in his chair.
dsaun [2d\]: no, i don't think he said that, anyway Feng Yun is no longer on the China national team, although she is friendly with players in China
pppp2008 [2k\]: b has to o5?
wry [4d\]: b has to resign ?
sameasyou [2d\]: anyway I think it is a tragedy that the strongest female Go players in the world don't reside in their homeland
cjalden [2k\]: Is it a tragedy that goood hockey players don't all stay in Canada?
niki [2k\]: can b just run the p lie down and use the aji in r3?
niki [2k\]: p-line
h7N1 [4d\]: Rui Naiwei represented China in 2006, 2007, 2008 3-country team tournament
ConanHoye [?\]: cjaiden: YES.  canada has not brought home the stanley cup in way way to long
sameasyou [2d\]: no...but these people can only play at their level in 3 countries...China, Korea and Japan...so when they are not in one of these countries their skill is lost somehow and wasted
cjalden [2k\]: I guess I think of 'tragedy' as something more serious
Uberdude [5d?\]: i think international migration is great
sameasyou [2d\]: u cant send singing birds to Greenland instead of Amazonia...they will be lost
USGO2 [-\]: Yun idly fingers her ring while thinking.
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;B[sn]C[pppp2008 [2k\]: oooo
niki [2k\]: how much time left?
asdfsdfadf: b live or dead?
sameasyou [2d\]: alive now
mihoda [1d\]: i'm guessing connected before alive
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;W[rq]
;B[mm]
;W[no]
;B[rk]
;W[rj]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yun hesitates in mid play
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;B[rl]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: b livs w not alive
Archaic [2d\]: so how do they determine winners?
Archaic [2d\]: of this tournament
S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: the player with more territory
S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: wins
Archaic [2d\]: ?
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: lol
Archaic [2d\]: hehe
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;W[oh]C[Archaic [2d\]: feng yun belongs to be the winner
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan tisks before playing P12
Archaic [2d\]: can't believe she lost to andy by mistake
Greenbudda [6d\]: s3 should t4
Archaic [2d\]: t4 uber
Archaic [2d\]: greenbudda
Greenbudda [6d\]: what is uber?
Archaic [2d\]: Greenbudda?
Uberdude [5d?\]: me
Greenbudda [6d\]: i didnt say dude
sameasyou [2d\]: b has to live now
sameasyou [2d\]: first
Greenbudda [6d\]: q11
USGO2 [-\]: Both players have 12 minutes of main time remaining.
Goprince [3d\]: both live
Greenbudda [6d\]: p9 better
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan gets up and leaves the room.
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;B[ok]C[sameasyou [2d\]: he blinked...he will lose :)
sameasyou [2d\]: great call Greenbudda
USGO2 [-\]: Yun takes the opportunity to do the same.
Greenbudda [6d\]: w in trouble
S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: what if they never come back
Greenbudda [6d\]: who ever has more time wins
S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: right
S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: would still be surreal
USGO2 [-\]: Both players return at the same time.
Greenbudda [6d\]: s3 losing move
Bfan [1k\]: USGO2 [-\]: Yuan gets up and leaves the room. Escaped maybe?
Greenbudda [6d\]: n11
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;W[mi]
;B[mj]C[Greenbudda [6d\]: no one says "good call"?
]
;W[ni]C[Koreangrl8 [3k\]: lol
pppp2008 [2k\]: b p11
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan tisks and shakes his head.
Archaic [2d\]: so many tisks
USGO2 [-\]: They are quite common on top board games
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;B[oi]C[pppp2008 [2k\]: w will resign 
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;W[nh]
;B[pi]
;W[ph]C[Greenbudda [6d\]: q12?
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan has just 2 minutes of main time left.  Yun has 3 minutes
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: oh no..that much time?o.0
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;B[ol]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yuan sighs at P8
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;W[ng]
;B[em]
;W[cm]C[Greenbudda [6d\]: b could o13
hoogly [8k\]: hmm
USGO2 [-\]: Yun clears her throat and plays
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;B[dl]C[Koreangrl8 [3k\]: ty.usgo
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;W[ck]
;B[cl]
;W[bl]
;B[bk]C[hoogly [8k\]: anyone venture a guess who has the advantage now
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;W[bj]
;B[dk]C[asdfsdfadf: b
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan has entered byo yomi
tbirdy [5k\]: both out of time  lot of game left with no main time
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;W[ak]
;B[cj]
;W[bk]
;B[ci]C[asdfsdfadf: play go is too tiring
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;W[dh]C[USGO2 [-\]: Board 1 just finished, a quiet buzz falls over the room.
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;B[bi]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yun has also entered byo yomi
gak4: board 1 finished? what was the result?
USGO2 [-\]: Both players now have 5 periods of 60 seconds
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;W[eg]
;B[ei]C[smoke [7k\]: andy won on board 1 by 5 pts
SColbert [3d\]: Andy Liu defeated MinjiuJiang
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;W[fj]C[gak4: wow ok thanks
cjalden [2k\]: awful lot of game left for byo-yomi
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;B[fg]C[Emiel [10k\]: live feed?
USGO2 [-\]: Crowds have gathered around the remaining games in the room.
USGO2 [-\]: The live feed is only on board 1, sorry.
BuhariEX [2k\]: what about kim? is he still in the tournament.. ?
Pathetic [4d\]: the beginning is the most crucial part, and require the most thinking. i myself have participated in one of these, and trust me, you need the time.
Emiel [10k\]: np
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;W[ff]C[Emiel [10k\]: thnx
mint [4d\]: Kim is in the US Open, not in the Ing Masters.
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;B[gj]C[iTengen [3k\]: middlegame is scary and wild
BuhariEX [2k\]: oh.. thanks
asdfsdfadf: who will be the final winner?
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;W[hj]C[mint [4d\]: Andy is already the final winner of the Ing, Kim will probably take the US Open
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;B[gk]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: f11
ketchup [2k\]: agree with mint
sameasyou [2d\]: g11
ketchup [2k\]: andy second place if he doesnt celebrate too soon :P
ketchup [2k\]: in us open at least
mint [4d\]: I don't think Kim has lost a single tourney game since he arrived in the US
asdfsdfadf: is this depend on how many games each won?
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan hesitates several times.
ketchup [2k\]: mint really? wow
USGO2 [-\]: He uses 1 period of byo yomi
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;W[gi]C[USGO2 [-\]: He tisks as he plays
mint [4d\]: he's so strong that Dae Hyuk Ko 8d said he's his teacher lol...and Dae Hyuk Ko beat a pro in the preliminaries of the Samsung.
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;B[fi]
;W[gh]C[sameasyou [2d\]: b controlling the game now
sameasyou [2d\]: m3
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;B[hk]C[hoogly [8k\]: l3
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan adjusts the stone at G9 after Yun plays
Pathetic [4d\]: I love these detailed commentaries!
sameasyou [2d\]: :)..indeed they are nice
Someone456 [5k?\]: lol
S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: yes :)
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;W[kq]C[Someone456 [5k?\]: "Yuan picks his nose"
sc1003bro [3k\]: lol
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan smacks down L3 loudly
Newz [8k\]: I bet
mint [4d\]: defiance!
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;B[ij]
;W[hi]C[cjalden [2k\]: very big for whoever got l3 first
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;B[ik]
;W[jj]
;B[ii]C[iTengen [3k\]: Yuan curls his lip in defiance and slams a stone down. he leaves his hand over it for a heartbeat a pierces his opponents spirit with an icy glare. the room falls silent.
AroundOneD [2d\]: USGO2 gave us a nice picture of the game. thx
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;W[di]C[saken5 [2k\]: nice move
Pathetic [4d\]: k12!
USGO2 [-\]: Yun starts to play, hesitates, then withdraws her hand
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;B[dj]
;W[fh]C[mint [4d\]: no need for webcam ;)
sameasyou [2d\]: iTengen back to Joyce now...u still have to learn :)
USGO2 [-\]: Heistation is apparent in both players moves now.
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;B[jh]C[Timshel [1d\]: is this yuan zhou the guy that wrote the pro style books?
mint [4d\]: yes
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;W[kh]C[saken5 [2k\]: scary scary
mint [4d\]: he also wrote a book on how to play handicap go, iirc
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;B[ej]
;W[ir]C[saken5 [2k\]: oooo sente
S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: as black or white
USGO2 [-\]: J2 lands with a loud smack
lolmanever [2k\]: it seems like white is going to win
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;B[iq]C[Newz [8k\]: The last two moves in the bottom were worth smacks
Pathetic [4d\]: I'd say e10 was a mistake, seems a bit small. no cut there either
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: what did j3 do?
Timshel [1d\]: b can save those two stones now tho
]
;W[hr]C[Koreangrl8 [3k\]: loud smack?
]
;B[gr]C[Timshel [1d\]: e12 g13 b13 
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;W[jr]C[saken5 [2k\]: retains sente
hoogly [8k\]: now w up a bit?
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;B[eh]C[saken5 [2k\]: o my
AroundOneD [2d\]: In the end game, pro always much stronger
Newz [8k\]: Wow...
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;W[gg]C[saken5 [2k\]: hoho
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan inhales sharply at E12
Timshel [1d\]: :D who called it
saken5 [2k\]: b13 to follow
Over9k [2k\]: b13 is gote though
Neospring [3k\]: cant b13 its gote
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;B[qi]C[elciego [-\]: seems a bit early for that
elciego [-\]: the last move, not this move
elciego [-\]: slow typing fail
]
;W[ri]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: b wants to play b13
Rocker [4d\]: supa slow
Pathetic [4d\]: b13 small, there's way too much agi at f3 id say.
XRF [1d\]: s13?
AroundOneD [2d\]: no r10
SergeyASh [12k\]: m5 ?
USGO2 [-\]: Yun has used 1 of her byo yomi periods
USGO2 [-\]: Both players now have 4 remaining
hoogly [8k\]: n18
]
;B[qj]C[weirdchess [5k\]: p14?
]
;W[oj]C[Timshel [1d\]: res
Timshel [1d\]: o wait
Timshel [1d\]: nvm
]
;B[pj]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: i said no r10
Someone456 [5k?\]: lol dude
saken5 [2k\]: =.=
Neospring [3k\]: wow
Neospring [3k\]: dead..
weirdchess [5k\]: b dead
ooOoo [2d\]: 3k
saken5 [2k\]: what dead
MythRealm [1k\]: no
weirdchess [5k\]: q9
Neospring [3k\]: oh wait ;0
Timshel [1d\]: lol
Someone456 [5k?\]: not dead...
AroundOneD [2d\]: yes
Neospring [3k\]: laugh 
Neospring [3k\]: me to drunk
AroundOneD [2d\]: q7 there
USGO2 [-\]: Yun's phone rings, and she turns it off.
weirdchess [5k\]: oh missd p7
weirdchess [5k\]: lol
knit [1d\]: nice ko threats for W though
Genghis [1k\]: How is it dead?
]
;W[rg]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: r10 is big
saken5 [2k\]: tough aiji tho
weirdchess [5k\]: p14 big, no?
XRF [1d\]: j6
]
;B[of]C[saken5 [2k\]: f2 kinda big eh
AroundOneD [2d\]: s15
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan picks up a stone and puts it back several times
]
;W[re]C[lolmanever [2k\]: thinking really hard?
lolmanever [2k\]: white is going to win lol
asdfsdfadf: how does the score determined, if 2 players win the same amount of games?
mint [4d\]: SOS
]
;B[qe]C[elciego [-\]: they wrestle
chunobi [6k\]: prolly who they played
Neospring [3k\]: they duel it out with guns 
USGO2 [-\]: Yun also aborts her play twice before playing
AroundOneD [2d\]: s14
]
;W[lb]
;B[kd]C[ychen666 [?\]: b wins. no suspension.
gfgfgfgffg: m18 big
]
;W[lc]
;B[jb]C[SergeyASh [12k\]: k16 ?
]
;W[mn]C[saken5 [2k\]: sente it up
]
;B[ln]C[XRF [1d\]: h7?
]
;W[pk]
;B[oj]C[TenDrink [2d\]: a18
Archaic [2d\]: q9 what is that
saken5 [2k\]: what
weirdchess [5k\]: f2
knit [1d\]: probably for time
weirdchess [5k\]: q9 timesuji
USGO2 [-\]: Both players are under time pressure
]
;W[in]C[mgelo [2d?\]: so how did Andy Liu finish please?
Archaic [2d\]: andy won by 5
weirdchess [5k\]: he won
elciego [-\]: he won
mgelo [2d?\]: k thx
]
;B[gn]C[Archaic [2d\]: so how are winners determined
weirdchess [5k\]: whoever gets the most prisoners + territory wins?
BrYanwithY [5k\]: the person with more points after bothp layers pass :D
saken5 [2k\]: ...
]
;W[ho]C[Archaic [2d\]: i mean overall in this tourney
saken5 [2k\]: number of wins prolly
weirdchess [5k\]: just total wins
USGO2 [-\]: I believe Andy is 1st, Mingjiu is second, and 3rd is still up for grabs, pending results of this game.
cjalden [2k\]: one player is 5-0, that's the winner
USGO2 [-\]: But I could be mistaken on that.
Archaic [2d\]: how many times did feng lose?
weirdchess [5k\]: once, to andy
nosebleed [2k\]: once to andy lui
]
;B[gq]C[Archaic [2d\]: bah it was  a fluke
saken5 [2k\]: hahaha
saken5 [2k\]: go andy
pppp2008 [2k\]: yun lost yesterday?
USGO2 [-\]: Yes, actually I believe I am mistaken, only 1st has been decided so far
Archaic [2d\]: yeah a foluke
AroundOneD [2d\]: m5
mollycat [7k\]: a foluke?
Archaic [2d\]: feng lost to andy by a fluke
Archaic [2d\]: if you saw the game
cjalden [2k\]: five players will have a score of 4-1
pppp2008 [2k\]: i did not watch whole game
Archaic [2d\]: the game was already over and the pro commentator had already left
AroundOneD [2d\]: or d1
Archaic [2d\]: then feng tried to capture white's group in the end lol...then died
XRF [1d\]: e16
Someone456 [5k?\]: more like feng got overconfident after she was like +50
Archaic [2d\]: yeah
Warlord [6k\]: it was dead all the time
Archaic [2d\]: basically like 50 points ahead
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan has used 1 more of his byo yomi periods
]
;W[bc]
;B[bb]C[BuhariEX [2k\]: where can i see that game?
evave [4k\]: who is the first?
Archaic [2d\]: that game was such a wierd thing
BuhariEX [2k\]: between feng and andy
Archaic [2d\]: i'm still shocked that happened
evave [4k\]: lol
SergeyASh [12k\]: may be k16 or b13 ?
evave [4k\]: was it from USGO1?
pppp2008 [2k\]: yeah, i left when she led a lot
Someone456 [5k?\]: if you subscribe to aga, they should've emailed you the sgf file
USGO2 [-\]: Ing results and game records can be found at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
Archaic [2d\]: what a wierd ending to that match
BuhariEX [2k\]: thanks [=
]
;W[rf]C[USGO2 [-\]: US Open results and game records are located at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
AroundOneD [2d\]: c1
]
;B[lp]
;W[lq]C[chunobi [6k\]: who is winning this?
]
;B[bd]C[weirdchess [5k\]: i think w slightly ahead
SergeyASh [12k\]: SE w +9  )
weirdchess [5k\]: but its close
USGO2 [-\]: Another tisk from Yuan
]
;W[ae]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: n4
]
;B[mp]
;W[np]C[Archaic [2d\]: someone calm me down i'm still sobbing inside :(
dsaun [2d\]: SE doesnt count very well under Ing rules
Archaic [2d\]: my lady has lost
AroundOneD [2d\]: hehe
]
;B[cs]
;W[bs]C[USGO2 [-\]: In a previous NAIM round SE gave one player 9 extra points that weren't even on the board when the game was completely finished
]
;B[ds]
;W[bq]C[USGO2 [-\]: So don't trust it.
AmerBeton [8k\]: b13
Someone456 [5k?\]: what is the use of b13
gfgfgfgffg: i count b easy ahead
AroundOneD [2d\]: s16
XRF [1d\]: s16
BuhariEX [2k\]: i don't see the fluke you were talking about in the game of feng and andy
Someone456 [5k?\]: s16 fo sho
hoogly [8k\]: k16
cjalden [2k\]: you counting prisoners and komi too?
BuhariEX [2k\]: can someone tell in what move it happend? \\:
USGO2 [-\]: Yun has used 1 of her byo yomi periods.  Both players have 3 remaining
gfgfgfgffg: yes i do
Archaic [2d\]: towards the end buhari
BuhariEX [2k\]: i cheaked the whole game
Rocker [4d\]: camong!
Archaic [2d\]: when the game was already done and feng was making random moves in the middle
gfgfgfgffg: b nearly 10 ahead even with 8 komi
]
;B[bg]C[cuibap [7k\]: S 16
]
;W[bh]
;B[ah]C[Rocker [4d\]: archaic dude
]
;W[dg]C[Archaic [2d\]: you could tell at that point feng was already massively ahead rite?
]
;B[ag]C[klm [2d\]: a11 ko
BuhariEX [2k\]: yea
Archaic [2d\]: yep
Rocker [4d\]: lets play
Archaic [2d\]: that's the fluke
Rocker [4d\]: dude
gfgfgfgffg: feng is far ahead
SergeyASh [12k\]: t18 ?
gfgfgfgffg: please count for yourself
pppp2008 [2k\]: really?
]
;W[ai]C[BuhariEX [2k\]: maybe andy was very strong and managed to come back? :O
]
;B[aj]C[Archaic [2d\]: nope it was a fluke
evave [4k\]: how many rounds left?
ogopogo [5k\]: b ahead by more than 10
Rocker [4d\]: feng got very madwhen she lost to an ama?
]
;W[ml]C[Archaic [2d\]: she prolly got ticked off by andy's arrogance
XY0908 [-\]: ...
Archaic [2d\]: looked like she was annoyed
AmerBeton [8k\]: i was right for b13
AmerBeton [8k\]: :)
ketchup [2k\]: archaic are you psychic?
Rocker [4d\]: oh he was arrogant?
ketchup [2k\]: how do you know ANY of what you claim?
]
;B[pm]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: q7
]
;W[ai]C[Archaic [2d\]: i dunno how else to explain it
Neospring [3k\]: clearly archaic favors feng
Archaic [2d\]: plus the pro commentator 9p nakano said feng had already won the game
AroundOneD [2d\]: c5
]
;B[mq]C[Archaic [2d\]: he left and then feng lost lol
cuibap [7k\]: he wanna kill w in top left
XY0908 [-\]: ketchup... don't make it worse...
AroundOneD [2d\]: b is leading a lot
Archaic [2d\]: feng lost her countenance maybe she didn't like andy
evave [4k\]: how many rounds are there
ketchup [2k\]: im sorry XY :(
Neospring [3k\]: either way she lost archaic 
Neospring [3k\]: maby she isn't experienced enough?
]
;W[kp]C[ketchup [2k\]: i just dont like his ridiculous assumptions
Neospring [3k\]: vs andy
XRF [1d\]: b will win
Archaic [2d\]: nah i could tell she was ticked
Archaic [2d\]: she lost her marbles at the end
SergeyASh [12k\]: nice move!
]
;B[lo]C[ketchup [2k\]: cant he save l4 for after n2 anyways?
Rocker [4d\]: i played a dude named feng yuan many times , and beat him or her ,  is he or she related to feng yun ?
saken5 [2k\]: er...
]
;W[mr]C[Archaic [2d\]: this game i'm sensing b being ahead
]
;B[aj]C[ketchup [2k\]: l4 feels like wasted threat
Someone456 [5k?\]: yeah it didn't really do much
Archaic [2d\]: this game is hard to tell
]
;W[lm]
;B[ll]
;W[ai]
;B[lr]
;W[nr]
;B[aj]C[Pathetic [4d\]: l4 isn't a big enough move for a ko threat
Pathetic [4d\]: remember, there's also b7 on stake here
]
;W[gc]C[saken5 [2k\]: w lost this ko
rikiyu [1k\]: Hi, did Andy win his game?
Over9k [2k\]: yes
Neospring [3k\]: b7
TheMagic [3k\]: andy won by 5
rikiyu [1k\]: !!! Thanks
SergeyASh [12k\]: and were threat?
saken5 [2k\]: a11 b is sente
]
;B[gd]C[saken5 [2k\]: =.=
]
;W[ai]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: b7 is nonsense
Archaic [2d\]: heh
Rocker [4d\]: i always shouted "feng feng feng " when i played him and he responded with "yuan yuan yuan"
]
;B[co]C[Archaic [2d\]: i'm in a daze rite now
]
;W[bo]C[Archaic [2d\]: i'm high
]
;B[aj]C[Archaic [2d\]: haha
Archaic [2d\]: feng feng feng yuan yuan yuan
Newz [8k\]: Heh...
MKv2 [2d\]: what's the current time for the players?
Archaic [2d\]: did he speak english well rocker?
knit [1d\]: 10:15 PM?
Newz [8k\]: I didn't know 2d's could smoke and be 2d XD
MKv2 [2d\]: i mean the playing time
USGO2 [-\]: Tisking and head shaking from Yuan
knit [1d\]: oh
]
;W[ec]C[saken5 [2k\]: hohoho
saken5 [2k\]: action
h7N1 [4d\]: bad ko threat
ketchup [2k\]: just e16
ketchup [2k\]: nothing here
h7N1 [4d\]: lost 5+ pts here aldready
ketchup [2k\]: losing point if e15 :(
USGO2 [-\]: Both players have 3 periods of 60 seconds byo yomi remaining
Over9k [2k\]: i wish go were more intense physically lol
Rocker [4d\]: i dunno thats all convo we had
]
;B[ed]
;W[ai]C[Shana [2d\]: just use really heavy stones to play
MKv2 [2d\]: Thanks!
USGO2 [-\]: Yuan shakes his head as he retakes the ko
h7N1 [4d\]: S16 enough to win the game
Shana [2d\]: for who
SergeyASh [12k\]: w have not really threats imho. if b b11 - need defend b9!
]
;B[br]C[saken5 [2k\]: really
USGO2 [-\]: He nods at B2
]
;W[af]C[Shana [2d\]: b ran out of threats
Newz [8k\]: WOw
Rocker [4d\]: feng is sir name or yuan?
h7N1 [4d\]: isn't S16 bigger?
]
;B[as]C[h7N1 [4d\]: or plan to ko again at b4
Over9k [2k\]: sir name feng
USGO2 [-\]: Feng is surname, Yun is given name
Rocker [4d\]: thx
cjalden [2k\]: surname
]
;W[ac]
;B[ab]
;W[ad]C[h7N1 [4d\]: S16 huge, 
]
;B[aq]
;W[bp]C[Someone456 [5k?\]: s16 now...
]
;B[rd]C[Someone456 [5k?\]: yay finally
FindYoda [?\]: k16
Archaic [2d\]: i'm still senseing b being ahead
ychen666 [?\]: k13 huge.
Archaic [2d\]: settle for second my lady
gfgfgfgffg: k13 k16 miai
Archaic [2d\]: settle for second
]
;W[jd]
;B[jf]C[hehe2009 [1d?\]: yes miai
gfgfgfgffg: ok or this one
h7N1 [4d\]: b leads by 20+ on the board
]
;W[cd]
;B[fc]C[gfgfgfgffg: i count this half an hour ago
SergeyASh [12k\]: mistake?
hoogly [8k\]: looks closer to 15
]
;W[kf]C[Archaic [2d\]: b b b b b b b b
hehe2009 [1d?\]: maybe 5
USGO2 [-\]: Yuans mouth moves as he silently counts the game
]
;B[ie]C[h7N1 [4d\]: After the counting
]
;W[ke]C[bneeman [?\]: ask him to whisper you how he counts it
Someone456 [5k?\]: comes the resignation
h7N1 [4d\]: YUan took a yawn
h7N1 [4d\]: and resings
Archaic [2d\]: lol
IamLucifer [1d\]: "mouth moves"
Over9k [2k\]: yuan is actually chanting spell to put feng yun to sleep
Over9k [2k\]: and win by time
Newz [8k\]: XD
h7N1 [4d\]: After the counting
AroundOneD [2d\]: about 20 points
h7N1 [4d\]: Yuan shed some tears, and resings
Neospring [3k\]: lol over9k
hehe2009 [1d?\]: h7 ?
uguryldz [7k\]: h7
]
;B[ka]C[hehe2009 [1d?\]: or g5 
us1dan [2d\]: who won? andy vs Jiang? anyone knows...
h7N1 [4d\]: After the counting, Yuan cleans up blood, and resigns
SergeyASh [12k\]: SE b+4
]
;W[go]C[Succesful [1d?\]: andy
us1dan [2d\]: great,
Someone456 [5k?\]: "crosses legs, picks nose luxuriously, goes and takes a piss, comes back and resigns"
IamLucifer [1d\]: yuan, young warlock
bneeman [?\]: so when is andy finally going pro ?
Neospring [3k\]: after counting, yuan flips go board by accident 
]
;B[hn]C[Pathetic [4d\]: you guys have something agaisnt yuan..
Archaic [2d\]: Yuan takes a yawn...takes the wad of bubble gum out from his mouth he's been chewing...sticks it to the inside of the disposal bin, winks at Feng and leaves the room with a tisk carrying his lapbag on his shoulders
USGO2 [-\]: This is the sole remaining game in the room now.
h7N1 [4d\]: Yuan used accupuncture and created a two-stone move, but still will lose by 0.5
h7N1 [4d\]: so he resigns
MKv2 [2d\]: kibitzers always go for the stronger
]
;W[db]
;B[cb]C[h7N1 [4d\]: fair weather fans...
soporific [5k?\]: ha
dsaun [2d\]: h7, will you please stop saying he resigns, until he actually does?
garrass [?\]: b win
sameasyou [2d\]: to gain time
h7N1 [4d\]: OK
dsaun [2d\]: thanks
XRF [1d\]: b is ahead by quite a bit
Archaic [2d\]: lol too funny
USGO2 [-\]: A sharp breath from Yuan
IamLucifer [1d\]: hah
john0q [5k\]: b+5 ish right now
USGO2 [-\]: Yun remains impassive
]
;W[jo]
;B[fo]C[evave [4k\]: h7 ?
IamLucifer [1d\]: lol
Someone456 [5k?\]: Yun is always impassive lol
]
;W[hm]
;B[gm]C[asdfsdfadf: still lost one game
Archaic [2d\]: a cool breeze drifts into the room briskly
asdfsdfadf: who beated her?
cjalden [2k\]: when you have nothing intelligent to say, and wish to advertize the fact, just type 'lol'
USGO2 [-\]: Yun fingers her ring again
SergeyASh [12k\]: h8 
Over9k [2k\]: andy liu beat her
]
;W[hl]C[Archaic [2d\]: Yun seems unamazed by the general proceedings of the math
Archaic [2d\]: Yuan's mouth is wide-open
h7N1 [4d\]: violence!
asdfsdfadf: kicking but
AroundOneD [2d\]: no way for yuan to turn around the game.
timetodie [-\]: asdfasdfasdf, no such word as 'beated'
timetodie [-\]: ^^
Resign [1k\]: se says "jigo" :/
]
;B[gl]C[Resign [1k\]: tie-ish o.o
bneeman [?\]: serves you right for asking SE
SergeyASh [12k\]: SE b+1
Someone456 [5k?\]: se is retarded
USGO2 [-\]: A rare tisk from Yun upon playing G8
gfgfgfgffg: i count 25 + on the board for b
soporific [5k?\]: feng yun's meditative expression makes her begin to hover above the ground
Archaic [2d\]: lol
SergeyASh [12k\]: o18 ?
Neospring [3k\]: until a wire breaks and she collapses on floor
]
;W[dn]C[gfgfgfgffg: b over 10 points ahead
owen [6k\]: didn't yun feng lost yesturday already?
]
;B[en]C[Archaic [2d\]: what tea is Yun drinking
asdfsdfadf: yuan sigh forgot balls at home
saken5 [2k\]: yes she did
saken5 [2k\]: owen
owen [6k\]: oo
owen [6k\]: i thought this was knockout tournament
USGO2 [-\]: She was drinking coffee, but her cup sits forgotten next to her.
saken5 [2k\]: lol
saken5 [2k\]: no its not owen
Archaic [2d\]: coffee???yun drinking coffee unlikely
Archaic [2d\]: haha
]
;W[nb]C[FindYoda [?\]: green tea
Archaic [2d\]: her cup sits forgotten next to her hahahah
]
;B[na]C[Neospring [3k\]: she drinks alot of coffe
Over9k [2k\]: a4 
Someone456 [5k?\]: lol archaic do you know the intimate details of her life?
]
;W[ma]
;B[mb]
;W[gs]C[Archaic [2d\]: i stalk her
]
;B[fs]
;W[nb]C[gfgfgfgffg: i dont know why w is still playing he is over 10 behind
]
;B[oa]C[IamLucifer [1d\]: this is not funny that 9 pro  lost again:P
evave [4k\]: k13  big
bibi: Archaic must be from New Jersey.
soporific [5k?\]: im sure you resign when you're ten behind
ketchup [2k\]: e15
Baccano [2d\]: b+5
Archaic [2d\]: im from new jersey eyp
USGO2 [-\]: It's possible the container had tea instead, I'm not really sure
Archaic [2d\]: my friend went to her go school
mint [4d\]: you have friends?
owen [6k\]: and?
hehe2009 [1d?\]: k13 1 p gote
gfgfgfgffg: ??? baccano do you count this?
USGO2 [-\]: She did pull something out of it earlier, might have been a leaf
]
;W[hs]
;B[ip]
;W[io]C[Over9k [2k\]: I go to school with zchen I don't stalk him?
Archaic [2d\]: pulled out a leaf to chew on
XRF [1d\]: e15
Someone456 [5k?\]: of marijuana
ketchup [2k\]: over9k why is that a question?
AroundOneD [2d\]: j8
Over9k [2k\]: i missed
]
;B[ig]C[Newz [8k\]: Why would someone chew on a leaf? Make brownies or something, come on
evave [4k\]: lol
evave [4k\]: see
]
;W[if]
;B[jg]
;W[ee]C[SergeyASh [12k\]: f2 ?
]
;B[mb]
;W[la]C[Archaic [2d\]: lol no chinese don't pull out leaves to chew i was just joking
xedover [5k?\]: lets focus on the game plese, and be respectful of the players
bneeman [?\]: f2 is nothing, just E1 to connect
uguryldz [7k\]: t15
gfgfgfgffg: g4
Someone456 [5k?\]: over9k you go to princeton?
Newz [8k\]: I know. I was talking about the marijuana part though.
]
;B[il]
;W[im]C[Baccano [2d\]: more like 10 :p
Over9k [2k\]: yea
gfgfgfgffg: aahh
Over9k [2k\]: is the a4 a5 b6 sequence worth it?
uguryldz [7k\]: t4 t3 t15
]
;B[gp]C[h7N1 [4d\]: it has value of -1 point
]
;W[pg]
;B[pf]C[Over9k [2k\]: ok
SergeyASh [12k\]: SE w+3 ))
softstorm [1k\]: w lose
]
;W[sd]C[gfgfgfgffg: se is chucknorris
]
;B[sc]
;W[se]
;B[oo]C[rich [10k\]: se = s[ecial edition
Archaic [2d\]: chuck norris can chop a go board in half ever thought about that
h7N1 [4d\]: isn't T9 better?
]
;W[sk]C[IamLucifer [1d\]: t9
]
;B[sl]
;W[sj]
;B[op]
;W[oq]C[gfgfgfgffg: equal
h7N1 [4d\]: no
h7N1 [4d\]: B T9 is bigger
Someone456 [5k?\]: chuck norris can win without playing a single stone
owen [6k\]: chuck norris jokes are so lame
]
;B[sp]
;W[sq]
;B[so]C[Archaic [2d\]: lol
cuibap [7k\]: b lose
bneeman [?\]: these are not chuck norris jokes, these are chuck norris facts
Archaic [2d\]: so funny
rich [10k\]: chuck norris is amazing
nosebleed [2k\]: g15 
Neospring [3k\]: no such thing as a chuck norris joke
IamLucifer [1d\]: hoho
rich [10k\]: ok javaness
]
;W[bn]C[gfgfgfgffg: ok master
IamLucifer [1d\]: admin actovated and now will be boring
timetodie [-\]: b ahead by probably 15pts
timetodie [-\]: iono
owen [6k\]: did u count the dead stones?
XRF [1d\]: is not it clear enough that b has won the game?
Someone456 [5k?\]: it's over I dunno why b isn't resigning
fly [1k\]: se says w by 6
Someone456 [5k?\]: I mean w
USGO2 [-\]: A sigh from Yun
]
;B[nb]C[owen [6k\]: guys
dsaun [2d\]: dead stones don't count in NZ / Ing rules
owen [6k\]: what's the site
owen [6k\]: for the web cam
fly [1k\]: is the sigh a sign?
Archaic [2d\]: yun is still dazed also from her loss
zflyhorse [2k\]: w  won  +5
]
;W[ap]C[SergeyASh [12k\]: w g19 seku if b e18 
]
;B[bs]C[Over9k [2k\]: isn't it aga rules
xedover [5k?\]: ing
dsaun [2d\]: Ing money, Ing rule
rich [10k\]: Ing
owen [6k\]: what's the website for the web camera
SergeyASh [12k\]: seki*
rich [10k\]: golden rules
ketchup [2k\]: there is no web cam for this one
owen [6k\]: oo ok
AroundOneD [2d\]: Yun's sign means why not resigation now
Baccano [2d\]: b+++
bneeman [?\]: webcam is only on table 1
owen [6k\]: i see
ketchup [2k\]: that's why usgo is telling us their actions
ketchup [2k\]: thanks for that btw
]
;W[ar]
;B[ge]C[hehe2009 [1d?\]: in deed 20 +
]
;W[gf]
;B[aq]C[SergeyASh [12k\]: g19 !
Over9k [2k\]: usgo1 telling us their actions is much more exciting than actually watching them imo
ethanb [2k\]: Yuan almost never resigns though
AkiraTouya [-\]: yes
]
;W[ic]
;B[ib]
;W[ar]C[ogopogo [5k\]: new zealand rules?
xedover [5k?\]: ing
ketchup [2k\]: ing rules
]
;B[jq]C[bneeman [?\]: ing rules, it's ing tournament
rich [10k\]: Ing rules
Newz [8k\]: odoyle rules
owen [6k\]: so u can imagine yun feng to be a young lady in her early twenties?
dsaun [2d\]: closest KGS has to Ing rules is NZ
]
;W[aq]C[AkiraTouya [-\]: /gp yuan zhou 7d!!
]
;B[dm]C[Archaic [2d\]: nope she's middle aged owen
owen [6k\]: i know she is
cjalden [2k\]: can imagine her to be about 43
Baccano [2d\]: dames now, just tell us the result
owen [6k\]: i am saying imagine
IamLucifer [1d\]: hehe
Archaic [2d\]: there's pictures of her in the past
]
;W[qg]C[IamLucifer [1d\]: dram about pro
]
;B[mk]C[rich [10k\]: dames, cant live with em, can't - never mind
ketchup [2k\]: l5
ketchup [2k\]: oh.. 
cjalden [2k\]: trying to imagine some of the kibitzers here as adults.  Can't manage that
IamLucifer [1d\]: can you imagine nice go player?
USGO2 [-\]: Dame count as points in Ing counting
SergeyASh [12k\]: SE w+6 !! 
owen [6k\]: not on kgs
Baccano [2d\]: yes, but result is decided already, b+12 or so?
]
;W[ji]
;B[ih]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: b wins at least 8 points
goplayer0 [8k\]: i am off this
]
;W[kg]
;B[hg]C[hehe2009 [1d?\]: b + 20 i counted
]
;W[jp]C[asdfsdfadf: let computer count
]
;B[hp]
;W[ko]C[Archaic [2d\]: haha
]
;B[jn]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: komi?
hehe2009 [1d?\]: but its late here
]
;W[mo]
;B[hh]C[asdfsdfadf: counting is too hard
XRF [1d\]: b so far ahead with E and F columns
]
;W[fe]C[rich [10k\]: 8
]
;B[he]C[h7N1 [4d\]: someone fixes SE or just kills it
Oogway [2k\]: SE says white ahead
Archaic [2d\]: yeah im too lazy to count
]
;W[og]C[dsaun [2d\]: SE doesn't work with other rule sets
Over9k [2k\]: SE is good for japanese
Archaic [2d\]: too stressful
USGO2 [-\]: They are now counting the game
SimT [7k\]: B+17?
UFGS [3d\]: w won?
h7N1 [4d\]: when the difference is 30, rule is irrelevant
ketchup [2k\]: B+11?
cjalden [2k\]: if counting points in a go game is stressful, life may be really hard 
SergeyASh [12k\]: what is NZ rules? What difference with Japanise?
Archaic [2d\]: rules only have like 3 point differences that's it
WanChai: w won
AroundOneD [2d\]: no way for w to win
Archaic [2d\]: at most 3 point
timetodie [-\]: b by at least 10
TenDrink [2d\]: 10ish
dsaun [2d\]: good time to say, thanks to scribe :)
ketchup [2k\]: yes, they leave fast
fly [1k\]: thx usgo!
ketchup [2k\]: thanks usgo
soporific [5k?\]: score?
rich [10k\]: w won?
ketchup [2k\]: they are counting
Someone456 [5k?\]: no b owned
ConanHoye [?\]: Thanks USGO
XRF [1d\]: b wins, clearly a better player in this game
dsaun [2d\]: Thanks USGO2
threeoone [4k\]: im good at counting, even with 10 stones at the board
USGO2 [-\]: B+ 11
Over9k [2k\]: thanks usgo
IamLucifer [1d\]: lol
Archaic [2d\]: nice nice
USGO2 [-\]: My pleasure :)
Baccano [2d\]: thank you
amadis [?\]: hey does anybody know, do the open results count for aga ranks? how about the ing results?
goodgo [3k\]: Thanks
AroundOneD [2d\]: thx
bneeman [?\]: thank you USGO2
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